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This is your problem Frank, you conflate everything. When a few weather underground people bombed Congress, you say they are democrats; they weren’t. They were part of a domestic terrorist group and certainly didn’t have any members of Congress and in the Whitehouse helping them to coordinate the attack.

And what does the anthrax scare have to do with democrats? They were targeted. Again, conflating nonsensical terror events and blaming them on democrats?

By your logic, I should blame republicans for Timmothy McVeigh bombing the Oklahoma City Federal Building. He was right-wing militia and republican; so was his militia.

And quite frankly, white nationalist domestic terror attacks account for 60% of all terror attacks in this country (According to the FBI). So if you want to have this debate, bring it on, instead of misinterpreting history from the 1960’s.

News flash Frank: It’s the 21st century! Seriously dude, you need a Prozac the size of a watermelon!

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Oh come on now. Try to access some self-reflective honesty here.

"In 1995, Bill Clinton famously used Timothy McVeigh’s bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City to tar Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh and turn the public against small-government Republicans. The 2011 shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords led to an onslaught of Republican-blaming"

Leftist protestors often head into terrorism territory. The entire 18 months of BLM and Antifa riots were domestic terrorism. But you support that... probably as you support Palestinian terrorism. Because your politics are righteous. And so you scramble typing word salads to try and defend what is indefensible and denigrate what is just normal God-given human rights as protected by our constitution.

I live in liberal land and debate your species on a regular basis and thus have a self-awarded PHD thesis that explained liberalism as a mental/emotional disfunction as practiced today. Unlike you, my faith in God and my family and my job is supremely more important than are any political orientation. I am politically agnostic. Not fealty to any cult political party as part of my need to be seen as virtuous like all my liberal friends. I only seek the facts and make judgements based on rational and logical comparison of situations. The Democrats are lying hypocrites these days. There really isn't anything moral or virtuous about that once great party of the American working class. It is a party of the raging, upset, life-meaning-starved upper class... that believe they are THE ELECT... and thus any means to an end is good. That was the same view Hitler and Mao had.

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Oh come on now indeed. You generalize without any evidence that leftist protestors often head into terrorist territory. And you even accuse Robert Jaffee of probably supporting Palestinian terrorism, and further insult him.

You also say you have a self-awarded PHD thesis --- what in the world is that? How does that make you an expert on anything??

Unfortunately, those who have no rational, evidence-based arguments very often stoop to ad hominem, personal insults and attacks on those they disagree with. And that is what you seem to be doing now.

So why not instead address the major problem and danger of our times, which is the anti-democratic, racist, misogynistic and vengeful Donald Trump, as demonstrated by his insidious attempted insurrection of January 6, 2021 ? --- which is as Steve says, “America’s most tragic day”. And which was and is still celebrated by so many Americans, who unthinkingly support Trump no matter what..

And why not instead do everything possible to preserve the rule of law and American democracy by striving to prevent Trump’s re-election in 2024?

And despite Steve’s attempt to reassure us that Trump will be defeated in 2024, I am not at all convinced.

I think it is more essential than ever now for all of us to work together to defeat this would-be tyrant and dictator.

So instead of insulting those you disagree with, I urge you please to join our great endeavour to stop what would be the American and world-wide disaster of Trump’s reelection as President.

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Get off your high horse. Your post here is personally insulting. What is wrong with you people that you are so blind to you blatant hypocrisy? God, if you really knew what 70% of the country and world thinks about you with you ideological cult luxury beliefs, you should be embarrassed.

Trump is living rent free in your heads and making ya'll blabbering idiots with cult-honed rhetorical sills.

I start the conversation on the topic and immediately you high and mighties go personal. Robert did post some interesting comments, but too much left ideological talking points to be useful.

Jan-6 was not an insurrection. Look up the Webster meaning of the word. Russiagate was the most disgusting abuse of government power for politics we have ever experienced, and that is the actual threat to democracy. The Covid authoritians were all Democrats. Talk about another threat to democracy.

I am not trying to change your mind, because you are cult programmed beyond any rational debate. I put it out there for the few objective readers to see.

I frequent sites outside of my normal views so I can learn. But all I am learning is stubborn refusal to accept anything outside of the left political media narrative. Might as well just watch MSNBC to "learn" something. LOL

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WOW Frank, you really are extremely angry, and not just at me.

And in light of your clear contempt for us supposedly cult-programmed “blabbering idiots”, I must really wonder why you are on this site??

I do hope you get some professional help to deal with your anger problems.

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