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Tobi Gordon's avatar

You’re promoting what we, under the parliamentary system, call a “coalition government”. Makes strange bedfellows but can actually become a workable compromise which allows some things to get done. It also can weed out extremists, as you suggest.

We have one right now, in Canada, with Trudeau getting the support he needs from our NDP party, when they are happy enough with their ability to exert some influence. They have agreed to vote with the Liberals….for now. They don’t dictate policy, but they do influence it and can check things if it gets crazy. It can get messy, when there are too many parties, like in Israel, where disparate, extreme parties must be wooed and can become arbitrary king-makers, but that’s not where you are…yet.

Bob Rae, a brilliant, decent and practical man, a previous NDP Ontario Premier (similar to a Governor, for those unfamiliar with our system) who switched parties to join the Liberals and served in the Federal Government and now serves as Canada’s Ambassador to the United Nations, used to sing a little ditty he wrote called “Same Boat Now” (on YouTube) which encouraged his fellow citizens to celebrate their diversity and work together for mutual benefit. It caught on. (You could use a theme song which doesn’t glorify war).

What concerns me, however, is that getting along, which Biden is encouraging, goes completely against the American cultural identity of “winner take all”!

This ideological requirement that there must be winners and losers in everything you do works at the stadium or field and beauty contests, but is eventually self-defeating and not conducive to a mature, functional society.

Instead of “all for one and one for all” mentality, I’ve found, when speaking to many Americans, in my travels, and consuming a lot of varied media from different sides, America prefers ideas like “every man for himself” or “what’s mine is mine….get your own” and, of course, the concept of “rugged individuality”. Teamwork is encouraged only when it leads to defeating the other teams! You talk about “leaving it all out there on the field”, describe success as “killing it”, too many still don’t value or respect women or the contributions of various ethnicities to the culture. The “almighty dollar” is still the main earmark of success. This kind of mentality isn’t really conducive to a productive way of life for most people.

Liz could break away, as you suggest, and make some headway, but then what? It seems her main focus is on getting rid of Trump and saving the Constitution. Would she and her subsequent followers be interested in saving,say, the “social safety net”? Any “huddled masses, yearning to be free”? “Equal pay for equal work”? Roe vs Wade? The planet?

Will you just end up right where you are, in the end?

I fervently hope this works out for you for your sakes, but also for ours. We have a tendency to emulate our southern neighbour and already have politicians who are being referred to as ‘Trumpy’ and anti-social groups emerging on the fringes, pushing for power.

Rick Steinke's avatar

Liz Cheney is clearly one of the heroes of the trials and tribulations we have gone through since 2016 and since our capitol was pillaged and desecrated on Jan 6, 2020. She possesses extraordinary courage. She is fearless. She is persistent. And she is smart.

Many excellent points were made in your expose, and this is one that stands out to me:

"Decent conservatives and moderate Republicans who have not been welcomed by the Democrats — and have been told that they must repent and seek redemption from political partisans in the other party who hate them — need a place to call home."

Yesterday, I was in Salt Lake City at a talk given by Evan McMullin and Adam Kinzinger. It was electrifying. The crowd, mostly an older one, received them like heroes returning from the front. There was so much positive energy there that ran directly counter to Trumpism and the MAGA crowd. One old timer sitting next to me, from Box Elder Country, said "Mike Lee is in trouble. He should never have taken out the Book of Mormon and said that Donald Trump was like the Angel Moroni. My grandkids have no idea how close we came to becoming a monarchy in 2020." I replied, "Amen. Nor should the evangelicals have said that Trump is King David." There is hope out there. I hope the man was right about Mike Lee being vulnerable in this election.

At the event, I learned of Adam Kinzinger's Country First movement (country1stdotcom). Country over party, country over tribe, country over the cult of personality, our Constitution over everything (the real one, not the bastardized version touted by those who carry a never read let alone understood pocket version and who claim to know what's in it.) There are currently 200,000 members (now, 200,001). It's a place a lot of decent folks can go to.

Last night, I believe there was a $$/plate event in Park City with Evan McMullin and Adam Kinzinger but I couldn't make it. Steve, perhaps you were there?

Country First!

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