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What is new about Donald Trump in the polls? Nothing has changed. for months but we are still hearing the same thing over and over again.

My response: So?

So the MAGA wing of the Republican party still supports Trump. That is not news yet it repeated over and over and the danger is that the it morphs into the county still supporting Trump which I do not believe is the case.

Christie makes an argument that should speak to the general electorate: Why does the Republican party want a nominee for President who has multiple federal indictments, massive legal problems (whether or not one believes they are legitimate they exist), and can't even find enough lawyers to represent him.

How much beyond $40 million are MAGA folks willing to fork out for the legal bills of a billionaire whose emotional and mental problems have put him in a hole he dug himself.

Is there not a case to be made that a 79-year old guy with 4 or 5 indictments has so many of his own problems he could not even begin to consider addressing those of the country?

Would anyone with a business hire a CEO who has 4 federal indictments to run their company?

The answer to these questions are DUHHHHH. And these should be the talking points -- not the high poll numbers and crazy responses.

Once again, the messaging is not on target. Let's get this straight and repeat it endlessly so that people know that Trump just has too many problems. Or as my Grandmother used to say about prospective husbands: "Everyone has baggage but nobody needs a steamer trunk."

Trump is a steamer trunk.

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Everyone has baggage but no one needs a steamer trunk….

Trump is a:teamer trunk!

Love your grandmother, Marsha

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Jane your grandmothers words

Are the Best.. thanks for sharing

Her wisdom! Marsha ❤️

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Lisa .. don’t you love Jane’s

Grandmother’s words of wisdom

The Best!!! Love, Marsha ❤️

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Throw that old fart-filled trunk overboard

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Duhhh for sure! The logic obviously doesn’t escape us - only them. But if tRump is elected - and there is a chance that he could again - then all those problems go away and the point is moot.

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Swing voters aren't dumb. If the point is made that nobody with 4 federal indictments can effectively run the government -- if elected -- then I think swing voter will get it. Not talking about the MAGA-brain washed

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“Swing voters” are clearly dumb if this point has to be made to them. Any idiot should be able to see who and what Trump is. The problem, as Steve explains, is apathy. And that apathy is borne of a sense of helplessness- that votes don’t count. Because more people voted for Hillary Clinton, but we still got Trump. And they believe that the vast majority of elected officials are corrupt, so voting doesn’t matter. This is literally how a democracy ends.

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As a retired AF veteran, I didn’t spend 20 years of my life defending democracy just to let a 💩bag like drumpf put a knife thru its heart.

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Larry your words are heartfelt.. thank you for your blessed service

Defending our country! Marsha

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Lisa…Larry gave twenty years of his life in service of our country…

Grateful you also acknowledged him ty for your empathy.Marsha 🌹

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Amen! Thank you for your service, Larry. drumpf will not take us down!

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Thank you!!!

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You nailed it, Steve. If this country is important to me, to you, to all of us, we MUST vote! Loud and clear! A traitor like trump, which I believe he is, must NEVER WIELD POWER AGAIN!

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Cindi.. thanks for writing that

TRAITOR DJT Must NEVER

WIELD POWER AGAIN..,we must stop this insanity ..VOTE, Marsha

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Indeed, we must. Vote GOP OUT. VOTE BLUE up and down the ballot. If they hate our country SO MUCH that they are willing to do violence to the country and it's people and are willing to reelect a criminal, then just let them fuck off to some third world country under a dictator, and let's see what happens.

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Meryl we can get out the Vote!

We can work we can with working together save our country we have HOPE we have Freedom! Marsha

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Lisa …thanks … we’ve got to get people to VOTE for BIDEN…

Straight Blue ticket up and down the ballot… we Can save freedoms Democracy In America🌹Marsha

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Steve is preaching to the choir. All of his readers vote. How do we reach the ones who don’t believe their vote matters?

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Jul 31, 2023·edited Jul 31, 2023

Steve, another excellent, insightful presentation, as usual.

How is it, you ask, that DJ Trump still commands such a hold over his followers? I've spoken before on these threads about the phenomena of cognitive dissonance and Freudian defense mechanisms on the part of his followers. Let's look more at Trump himself....

We could analyze how he has been "riveting" and hypnotizing multitudes of passive viewers since his TV days on The Apprentice as an alpha male "top dog" boss-figure. (It's well known to hypnotherapists and psychotherapists that TV and movies induce a very suggestible hypnotic state in viewers. E.g., read the many papers archived at the APA over the decades on how cartoon violence affects children, etc.)

Trump did not earn that "leadership" position. It was all an artificial set-up created by the producers of the series and his own pretensions at "greatness" and "success." All of that has been de-constructed by investigative journalists starting with Tim O'Brien. But Trump exploited that artificial position to maximum advantage, and multitudes fell for it-- thinking him to be a "great business leader" and "financial mega-success." With his derisively-delivered line "YOU'RE FIRED!"-- he aggrandized himself into a dominance position with tremendous social power over other human beings' career success or failure.

In other words, that TV series allowed him to appear to the masses as a kind of influential demi-god. It was easy for him to parlay that into being a right-wing "populist" demagogue.

For his 2015-16 campaign and at all his rallies since then, Trump utilizes a few basic hypnotic techniques, most prominently these three:

1) Confusion-- he disorients less intelligent people's minds with his lengthy b.s. stories, whopping lies that paralyze logical analysis, ridiculous rhetorical questions, absurdist segues and run-on sentences, and so forth.

2) Very aggressive mouth behavior-- the frequent baring of teeth and severe pursing-curling of his lips-- which subliminally communicates dominance, as when two dogs first meet each other in a park or on the beach they quickly establish who is dominant by teeth-baring and growling.

3) Those weird hand gestures and arm movements, such as what has been described as "playing the accordion" routine, which subtly distract the attention so that he can pour into people's heads all his endless b.s..

And of course, as is well known, Trump has gained a massive following of "deplorables" (as Hillary Clinton termed them) by role-modeling and giving explicit verbal permission to be lying, cheating, nasty, intimidating, violent A**HOLES-- happy to break the law and violate common decency whenever it suits him/them.

And, lastly, so much of the content of his verbiage is the politics of resentment, rage, revenge, and scape-goating / demonizing "enemies," which stimulates in his followers the widespread "drug-fix" of being hopped up on adrenaline. They literally are “getting high on hatred.” And "high" on the hubris of feeling superior to their Democrat "enemies."

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Thank you for this. Steve posed a number of "why...?" questions but no answer. I have a very hard time wrapping my head around how there can still be such a large number of blindly loyal followers. This helps explain it, though I remain mystified at how we can't collectively see the parallels between this and the rise of Hitler.

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The parallels are totally there, Susan. I think it was Mary Trump (and maybe an earlier author) who said that Fred Trump senior put a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf on young Donald's bedside table.

And with my earlier mention of DJ Trump's TV show, consider that fabricated but very suggestive photo-meme on the internet (e.g., here: https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1263870354222731265 ) -- a side-angle photo of Hitler, Mussolini, and then Trump alongside them..... with the caption: THE APPRENTICE.

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Timothy extraordinary writing

Great job !! Thank you for sharing

I’m sure grateful ✅Marsha

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Lisa as I retire after a long ten hour day at Hospice my heart is filled with gratitude for your responses and The entire Warning Community

My life is Blessed❤️Marsha ✅

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Marsha, Yes we are Blessed! ❤️🌹

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You're welcome, dear Marsha!

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Yes, extraordinary! We have many incredible voices here on The Warning! Grateful! 🌹

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Timothy, this is the best and most concise explanation of how Trump rose to power in the U.S.A. that I've ever heard. I've copied this to my desktop so I can read it in the future and share it with others. The method you've explained here is also true to how cult leaders indoctrinate their followers. I feel it is important to understand these concepts. Thank You!

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Aug 1, 2023·edited Aug 1, 2023

Thank you, Lisa, for the appreciative note.

>The method you've explained here is also true to how cult leaders indoctrinate their followers.

Exactly.

As you know, at my massive website on spirituality and sacred traditions (www.Enlightened-Spirituality.org), i've not only presented many aspects of authentic spirituality and dozens of case studies of exemplary saints & sages who've expressed profound virtues of the true hero / heroine-- i've also had to analyze all sorts of dysfunctional cultism dynamics and deeply problematic, abusive cult figures.

Lisa, your own several in-depth posts on these threads at The Warning about the Worldwide Church of God / Armstrong cult that gripped your parents for years illustrate further these dangerous dynamics of abuse and dysfunctional cultism.

Oh, if only there was a way to psychologically "vaccinate" youngsters (and booster shots for adults) with the savvy intelligence and knowledge-base to avoid getting sucked in by these insidiously dangerous cult leaders and conmen.

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My understanding is that cult members will hold on like a pit bull! Hope they soon discover how he’s spending their contributions to cover his legal fees! He’s a criminal and more dangerous than Al Capone!

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I have pits, and they are the sweetest pups that ever drew breath. Contrary to popular belief, they do not hang on when they bite something.

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Yes, MAGA-CULT -let's call it what it is! Thanks.

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This Trump thing: it is a disease for which there is no vaccine to eradicate it. I have good friends who support Trump, people I believe to be good rational citizens, except for this disease they have that compels them to support a purposeless candidate for president of the United States. A candidate who fantasizes himself a living martyr...a martyr who is unwilling to die for anything, even himself. Is this a hero, a martyr? Trump is sick and he spreads his disease to the vulnerable, no matter what position they assume on life’s ladder. Rich, poor, white collar, blue collar, this disease doesn’t differentiate...it attacks the soul...it turns the sober to nonsensical, the good to bad, and the bad to flat fkn ugly.

Remember the look on Mitch McConnell’s face when the bottom dropped out of his brain and he was making everyone who witnessed this moment want to puke? His is the face of this sickness--and who’s hero is he now, as they cart him off on a stretcher?

I’ve been praying a lot, praying to any and all good gods and spirits who will listen....for the good of the people, for the good of the country, and for all the sacrifices that have been made in her defense---deliver us from this bullshit.

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WOW thank you I’ve been praying prayers for same thing…learned in my Hospice pastoral care work to say prayers in every faith so that’s what I’m doing EVERY SINGLE DAY

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Lisa you enrich every day of my life

You are kind, empathetic and so wise and so knowledgeable and capable of expressing what needs to be done you are a blessing

YOU Are Hope….respect you✅

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Thank you so much, Marsha! I feel the same way about you, truly! 🌹

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Sunshine you blessed my evening

By responding to the prayers to

All faith’s.. ty .. 🌹Marsha

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I can not understand how someone can be a Trump supporter and “good rational citizens.” An oxymoron. I would distance my self from any friend or family member who is a Trump supporter. Inless they are mentally impaired, they are not good people.

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A frighteningly vast number of American people are willing to suffer (in both senses of the word) the selfish pathology of a Trump, who is mentally and emotionally unstable. Why? For one thing, we stopped teaching history and civics to elementary school students about fifty years ago, so those adults are now unable to see how their freedoms are being pulled out from under them. They’re also so damned busy trying to keep a roof over their family’s heads that they struggle to keep up even their personal relationships. No excuses, just an observation. Oh well, it was good while it lasted. Maybe we have to lose everything before we appreciate what we had. Okay, like most of us I am personally optimistic for some reason. We need to revive common sense and take back our helm. We’re allowing ourselves to be controlled.

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My children were taught history and civics in the eighties but they were in private schools from preschool thru college didn’t

Have the choice public schools in

Manhattan were too dangerous!!!

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Unfit parents bear most of the responsibility!

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Bayjh… maybe because I’m a grandmother who doesn’t allow any technology brought into my home by my children or grandchildren or their friends believe it’s not the parents.. I’m worried about the

Technology World and Now AI is

Coming !!! parents know less than

Children and grandparents less…

I’m not on Instagram, Facebook,

Twitter, Ticktock.. only trust

The Warning..I’m invisible, Marsha

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Sunshine your heartfelt responses shows me how your soul connects with kindness and you are my soulmate❤️ love, Marsha

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Also true! We are facing a number of new challenges on the technology front and have yet to be able to fully manage them.

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Bayjh your response is appreciated

…when anyone comes into my home all cellphones are collected into basket at the door until they

Leave….conversation is the way

I was raised……opinions valued..

Taught having a voice was very ✅important ..Marsha

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In the home where I was raised, the parents did the talking and the children were “seen and not heard.” My sister and I were raised like 19th Century children in the 20th Century. The one television was controlled by adults and it had an “off” mode. Ancient history, I guess. Stop me before I turn myself into an old fogey!

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Sunshine Bless you for your

Empathy.. hugs, Marsha

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It sickened me when history and civics stopped being taught in US

Public schools just doesn’t make common sense!!!! 🥲😓Marsha

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Bayjh, thanks for bringing up the crucially important subject of EDUCATION! Without proper education programs that teach history, civics, and critical thinking skills, we're doomed.

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Thank you for adding a transcript, it makes it much easier to focus on your podcasts and I don't worry about missing a word or a phrase.

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Thank you for including a transcript. Much easier to read and refer back

You mentioned the 10% making primary decisions (30m vs 330m population). I’m trying to think if there is a better option for how to select candidates. The 19thC smoke/filled room is out, and not sure if the regional process might resolve the small % turnout challenge.

Unless there is a Deus ex Machina event between now and Nov 2024, the R candidate will be DJT. No matter how horrible he is, there small % who will support him will push him onto the ballot.

Interesting in todays stats was the 25% of R not supporting DJT. While it will not impact the primaries, it can help sway the General Election.

I encourage everyone to be active as we go into primary season and into the General Election. Many states are “purging “ voter rolls. Please make sure your name, and your friends and family are still on the rolls.

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Stay strong with your party Trump! Keep taking their money and spending it on legal fees. Keeps it out of the hands of more credible candidates. DT is likely to lose again and show along the way is not to be missed. Lots of people say Biden is too old, including you Steve, but you can’t argue with results. He’s doing GREAT not JUST good things, and he’s got an excellent team around him. Four more years!

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Biden should never be underestimated. He is turning this country around. Thanks.

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Thanks Steve, you've given a clarion call to every American that loves their country to step up and be counted. To stop a terrible man who doesn't love this country but himself. We must, if we're true patriots, stand up at the ballot box and stop this maniacal person from gaining power. It not about me or you, it's about us as a nation. We will either go forth as a country where everyone is valued or fall under the revengeful anger of one man.

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VOTE…our freedom depends on us

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How is it legal for this freakazoid to continue to swindle people out of their money for an entity that is being represented as one thing, but clearly is lining said freakazoid’s pockets?

Isn’t it misrepresentation? Forget that his fans don’t care what he does with their money? How is it not DOJ’s responsibility to stop him from this bs ploy.

No way is this dumb ass paying an hourly rate to his team of lawyer’s. He’s paying (that’s a joke in itself) a retainer that’s no where near the money he’s raising and pocketing the millions left on the table.

Hope the DOJ can claw ALL OF IT from freakazoid.

Stop this criminal from stealing. Just stop him!

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Like so many said...he sure is good for 'business'...but only his own! Freakazoid Fraud!

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Vote. Vote. Vote.

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Why is this Trump minority allowed to grab all the attention and oxygen in every room?

Wake up Dems and Independents, we deserve more! Trump is never going to change since he knows only how to fight in the gutters. A bully and con man! Never high class but nasty dirty people who he asks to fight for him!

Put the whole truth out there about what is being accomplished in our country! This is not Trump’s party to push around and to lie about, over and over. Stand up and be heard! Get registered to vote BLUE! Forget the twisted polls! VOTE Democrats!

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They are loyal to Trump because they are all suffering from their own potent discontent and have disconnected from reality. Nobody will change their minds. As people who are in tune with reality, we are left having to fight for the freedoms we want to have. The price for our freedoms is being vigilant and working for a 55% vote. We must vote out all far-right Republicans and vote in people who share our values. 2024 is important.

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Those far right nut jobs cannot be voted out because they’ve all been elected in those gerrymandered districts created for them to hold these offices.

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Thanks Steve. What world is dt living in that he believes it is ok to spew venom, vengeance and hatred? All in the name of making him head destroyer of our America! Just go away DT. You are not wanted or loved by people.

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