Political ambitions are one thing, but I think the 2028 race should be on the back burner. We've got to win in 2024, or there may not be an election in 2028. I really wish the Dems would get on the same page, one that saves our Democracy.
It should never be anyone’s “turn” to run for an office. A candidacy has to be earned. In Minnesota the Dems lost the governorship to Timmy Pawlenty for this very reason. We cannot afford this in 2024. BTW I fully support Joe Biden for president. He is the best we’ve had since LBJ.
Gavin Newsom’s gifts of communicating articulate and insightful analysis should be not only appreciated by all those concerned with our threatened democracy, he should be front and center with the Biden/Harris staff utilizing his skills on behalf of rescuing our country. Let the voters decide but do not muzzle a great communicator out of some corrupt idea of who deserves to be elected from time spent rising in the ranks. I appreciate Vice President Harris, and if she is wise, she will partner with Gavin Newsome to strengthen their message. The survival of our democracy is at stake. Thanks for making this crucial point Steve, even as you bond with your son on your road trip to New England, home of our county’s beginnings....(along with the great state of Ben Franklin, Pennsylvania).
Now is the moment in time for Unity. How many F&*$ing advisors does it take to win our country back? Dems need a lean mean fighting machine and now is the time. Remember all those Confederate generals that lost strategic battles because they knew too much and were delusional of their opponents strength? Humility in strategy is strength. Dems need to organize that strength now in Unity. The UNION won the war.
“Harris allies take particular umbrage at what they see as Newsom's attempt to position himself for the 2028 Democratic presidential primarily at her expense.”----Harris Campaign Advisor
There in lies the rub. Like Hillary, Harris expects a coronation and how’d that work out for the party in 2016? And exactly the reason Kamala will not be President. Additionally, Harris has also proven herself incapable of connecting with the American people, and given how many advisors and senior aides have left her administration within the first year, it exemplifies her inability to show she would make a competent President on day one, or ever for that matter. This is the stuff of petty nonsense and childlessness; the type, all of us are sick of.
Personally, I wanted Newsom to run. Biden said he would be a transitional president. Not only are we dealing with his age, but should the Hunter investigation show even the slightest possibility that Joe was getting money under the table, he can no longer claim the high-moral and ethical mantle. And Let’s face it, a twice impeached, convicted sexual offender, and four time indicted man!(93 counts including RICO) is running neck and neck against the current Biden. It should be a blowout, not a nail biter!
That said, If anything, we in the Democratic Party want to be able to make our own choice, not force fed our politicians down our throats. If that’s the case, I’ll register as independent. Been there, done that in 2016.
Furthermore, Kamala hasn’t accomplished much as VP; seems awkward in interviews, and hasn’t done much with the border; the one issue Biden asked Kamala to take the reins on, and run with it. In fact, all we’ve ever heard is crickets.
Instead, she thought she was being set up for failure, and dismissed the border portfolio outright. So If Kamala believes she is the rightful heir to the throne, then democracy in our party is already dead. So why vote for a tyrant or wannabe dictator? Slice it however you want, it’s not democratic process when the people in the party aren’t choosing their next presidential candidate, which is the whole point of democracy, isn’t it?
Newsom offers fresh blood and youth. As Steve points out, he runs the fifth largest economy in the world. Not only that, it’s a microcosm of all of America. Every sector, from agriculture to technology, is part of California’s economic landscape.
I’m looking forward to the debate between DeSatan and Newsom, and only wish it were sooner, since it could help shift the playing field and give us a leg up and some hope, should any Biden disqualifying fires start to break out by 2024. Not to mention, Newsom would make mince meat of the man!
I see a Newsom/DeSantis anything as a Governor to Governor debate. I see Newsom along with Whitmer and a few other D Governors as potential 2028 contenders. I also see this as an attempt to show divisions where the campaign appears to be organized and humming along. There is neither smoke nor fire.
Any chance this is the scenario? Yes, Harris is thinking about 2028 and so is the Gov. of CA (and many, many others). At the same time, the Gov of CA is taking a baby step into national politics and has been assigned to stalk the Gov of FL? Is the Harris camp uneasy? Of course! Has anyone said Harris will have or should have a clear field? No! Did VP Gore? No! Did Dole? No! Did George Bush Sr? No! Did Johnson's VP? No! Nixon's VP/Unelected President - lost. Did Sec HCR former first lady? Almost, except Bernie said that was unacceptable and the DNC cost her a lot of important votes when it was revealed they opposed Bernie. Since when do VPs or any candidate for that matter get carte blanche? Honestly, the Gov of CA is not a threat to the Dem's campaigns in 2024 or 2028. He is more likely an asset. Oops, I forgot, Ford was challenged by Reagan, who lost but four years later Reagan came back and beat Carter.
The point isn't the flailing zombie DeSantis, or the utility and energy and slaying power of Newsom, but, rather, the shocking lack of solidarity, of fellowship, in proximity of the looming goblinesque shadow that is the malfeasant GOP. We need to be sharp, relentless, on-point, inexhaustible missiles wrt messaging, campaigning, all of it.
Now, now, now is the time to pounce, to run with the bit, to save the puppies, to leap tall buildings, to highlight feats of blazing glory while taking no mercy on the gobshite Jim Jordans, Marjorie Taylor Greenes and the like. As an aside, IMHO, DeSantis has basically eradicated himself on the basis of his stunted personality and inability to even hold a reasonable conversation. Evil and awkward are not endearing.
Yes, we know there are lots of fuck-you’ers who support trump against the establishment that has destroyed their middle class. But everybody i know voting for trump ( not supporting but voting; there is a difference) lives in a mcmansion and sends their kids to private school. They are the only-one-pie people who have no intention of sharing the goods, and control, with anyone undeserving.
Harris is a talented woman, but she will never be president. And if it is true that she is positioning for '28 during this reelection campaign, she has no business on the ticket this time around.
I really wish Biden had chosen her for Attorney General rather than VP.
I hope Democratic campaigners and pollsters will not be blinded by their own arrogance and opacity as in 2016 and take things for granted. And even more worrying is the ramping up of covert online and offline information distortion and disruption campaign to destabilize the US political system coming from abroad. The stakes are enormous here and globally. Democrats should start a real push back on misinformation campaign with the help from the government itself.
Policy achievements are the Biden administration's strength. Communicating those achievements certainly is not. Maybe they think it is too early to go big on the great things accomplished, but having Newsom debate DeSantis could be the opening bell for the start of the actual campaign because it certainly hasn't started yet. And where is the media coverage of all the achievements? Certainly partially the campaign's fault there is too little out there. I see this debate as a springboard for the start of the real campaign with no need to wait to see who the Republicans put forth on their ticket.
Kamala has gotten almost zero coverage, although she has been out and about. Why? The campaign's fault? Of course. Go Gavin!
Unleash the hounds! In this case, it’s governor Newsom. He’s a bad ass on the debate stage just as he’s been a very successful, tough governor, and an outspoken critic of the dumbkoff governors like DeSantis and Abbott. If this is a preview of the 2028 race, so be it. America loves a winner!
Regarding the video about the ending of the colossal American presidency failure known as the Trump administration, the years of Trump’s presence in the public square illustrate clearly the importance of truth and trust for sustaining democracy. Likewise, the Trump administration shows how the absence of truth and trust undermines and damages democracy. This is why Trump has been so odious to those of us who want democracy. Certainly Trump has capitalized on our government’s inability to earn Americans’ trust. In a democracy truth and trust are symbiotic, one requires and complements the other. Truth and trust are the “currency” of democracy. When a leader like Trump tells more lies than truth, and lies when telling the truth is easier, our democracy is “devalued”. We must demand leaders who are truthful that will rebuild our trust. And we must come to a national realization that truth is truth. Truth is not what everyone wants it to be so they can believe whatever they want, which oftentimes for many Americans is pure fantasy (example- conspiracy theories). I love what the late Senator Daniel Moynihan said about this- “You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own set of facts.”
Delusion is a bad thing in a presidential campaign
Political ambitions are one thing, but I think the 2028 race should be on the back burner. We've got to win in 2024, or there may not be an election in 2028. I really wish the Dems would get on the same page, one that saves our Democracy.
It should never be anyone’s “turn” to run for an office. A candidacy has to be earned. In Minnesota the Dems lost the governorship to Timmy Pawlenty for this very reason. We cannot afford this in 2024. BTW I fully support Joe Biden for president. He is the best we’ve had since LBJ.
Gavin Newsom’s gifts of communicating articulate and insightful analysis should be not only appreciated by all those concerned with our threatened democracy, he should be front and center with the Biden/Harris staff utilizing his skills on behalf of rescuing our country. Let the voters decide but do not muzzle a great communicator out of some corrupt idea of who deserves to be elected from time spent rising in the ranks. I appreciate Vice President Harris, and if she is wise, she will partner with Gavin Newsome to strengthen their message. The survival of our democracy is at stake. Thanks for making this crucial point Steve, even as you bond with your son on your road trip to New England, home of our county’s beginnings....(along with the great state of Ben Franklin, Pennsylvania).
Now is the moment in time for Unity. How many F&*$ing advisors does it take to win our country back? Dems need a lean mean fighting machine and now is the time. Remember all those Confederate generals that lost strategic battles because they knew too much and were delusional of their opponents strength? Humility in strategy is strength. Dems need to organize that strength now in Unity. The UNION won the war.
“Harris allies take particular umbrage at what they see as Newsom's attempt to position himself for the 2028 Democratic presidential primarily at her expense.”----Harris Campaign Advisor
There in lies the rub. Like Hillary, Harris expects a coronation and how’d that work out for the party in 2016? And exactly the reason Kamala will not be President. Additionally, Harris has also proven herself incapable of connecting with the American people, and given how many advisors and senior aides have left her administration within the first year, it exemplifies her inability to show she would make a competent President on day one, or ever for that matter. This is the stuff of petty nonsense and childlessness; the type, all of us are sick of.
Personally, I wanted Newsom to run. Biden said he would be a transitional president. Not only are we dealing with his age, but should the Hunter investigation show even the slightest possibility that Joe was getting money under the table, he can no longer claim the high-moral and ethical mantle. And Let’s face it, a twice impeached, convicted sexual offender, and four time indicted man!(93 counts including RICO) is running neck and neck against the current Biden. It should be a blowout, not a nail biter!
That said, If anything, we in the Democratic Party want to be able to make our own choice, not force fed our politicians down our throats. If that’s the case, I’ll register as independent. Been there, done that in 2016.
Furthermore, Kamala hasn’t accomplished much as VP; seems awkward in interviews, and hasn’t done much with the border; the one issue Biden asked Kamala to take the reins on, and run with it. In fact, all we’ve ever heard is crickets.
Instead, she thought she was being set up for failure, and dismissed the border portfolio outright. So If Kamala believes she is the rightful heir to the throne, then democracy in our party is already dead. So why vote for a tyrant or wannabe dictator? Slice it however you want, it’s not democratic process when the people in the party aren’t choosing their next presidential candidate, which is the whole point of democracy, isn’t it?
Newsom offers fresh blood and youth. As Steve points out, he runs the fifth largest economy in the world. Not only that, it’s a microcosm of all of America. Every sector, from agriculture to technology, is part of California’s economic landscape.
I’m looking forward to the debate between DeSatan and Newsom, and only wish it were sooner, since it could help shift the playing field and give us a leg up and some hope, should any Biden disqualifying fires start to break out by 2024. Not to mention, Newsom would make mince meat of the man!
Just some thoughts...:)
I see a Newsom/DeSantis anything as a Governor to Governor debate. I see Newsom along with Whitmer and a few other D Governors as potential 2028 contenders. I also see this as an attempt to show divisions where the campaign appears to be organized and humming along. There is neither smoke nor fire.
I would much rather the candidate in 2028 be Newsum than Harris. I imagine that is what they are afraid of. Interesting debate the woke vs the asleep.
Any chance this is the scenario? Yes, Harris is thinking about 2028 and so is the Gov. of CA (and many, many others). At the same time, the Gov of CA is taking a baby step into national politics and has been assigned to stalk the Gov of FL? Is the Harris camp uneasy? Of course! Has anyone said Harris will have or should have a clear field? No! Did VP Gore? No! Did Dole? No! Did George Bush Sr? No! Did Johnson's VP? No! Nixon's VP/Unelected President - lost. Did Sec HCR former first lady? Almost, except Bernie said that was unacceptable and the DNC cost her a lot of important votes when it was revealed they opposed Bernie. Since when do VPs or any candidate for that matter get carte blanche? Honestly, the Gov of CA is not a threat to the Dem's campaigns in 2024 or 2028. He is more likely an asset. Oops, I forgot, Ford was challenged by Reagan, who lost but four years later Reagan came back and beat Carter.
The point isn't the flailing zombie DeSantis, or the utility and energy and slaying power of Newsom, but, rather, the shocking lack of solidarity, of fellowship, in proximity of the looming goblinesque shadow that is the malfeasant GOP. We need to be sharp, relentless, on-point, inexhaustible missiles wrt messaging, campaigning, all of it.
Now, now, now is the time to pounce, to run with the bit, to save the puppies, to leap tall buildings, to highlight feats of blazing glory while taking no mercy on the gobshite Jim Jordans, Marjorie Taylor Greenes and the like. As an aside, IMHO, DeSantis has basically eradicated himself on the basis of his stunted personality and inability to even hold a reasonable conversation. Evil and awkward are not endearing.
Yes, we know there are lots of fuck-you’ers who support trump against the establishment that has destroyed their middle class. But everybody i know voting for trump ( not supporting but voting; there is a difference) lives in a mcmansion and sends their kids to private school. They are the only-one-pie people who have no intention of sharing the goods, and control, with anyone undeserving.
There are some disagreements among the Biden/Harris advisers. It doesn’t mean they are as a whole deluded.
Harris is a talented woman, but she will never be president. And if it is true that she is positioning for '28 during this reelection campaign, she has no business on the ticket this time around.
I really wish Biden had chosen her for Attorney General rather than VP.
I hope Democratic campaigners and pollsters will not be blinded by their own arrogance and opacity as in 2016 and take things for granted. And even more worrying is the ramping up of covert online and offline information distortion and disruption campaign to destabilize the US political system coming from abroad. The stakes are enormous here and globally. Democrats should start a real push back on misinformation campaign with the help from the government itself.
Policy achievements are the Biden administration's strength. Communicating those achievements certainly is not. Maybe they think it is too early to go big on the great things accomplished, but having Newsom debate DeSantis could be the opening bell for the start of the actual campaign because it certainly hasn't started yet. And where is the media coverage of all the achievements? Certainly partially the campaign's fault there is too little out there. I see this debate as a springboard for the start of the real campaign with no need to wait to see who the Republicans put forth on their ticket.
Kamala has gotten almost zero coverage, although she has been out and about. Why? The campaign's fault? Of course. Go Gavin!
Unleash the hounds! In this case, it’s governor Newsom. He’s a bad ass on the debate stage just as he’s been a very successful, tough governor, and an outspoken critic of the dumbkoff governors like DeSantis and Abbott. If this is a preview of the 2028 race, so be it. America loves a winner!
Regarding the video about the ending of the colossal American presidency failure known as the Trump administration, the years of Trump’s presence in the public square illustrate clearly the importance of truth and trust for sustaining democracy. Likewise, the Trump administration shows how the absence of truth and trust undermines and damages democracy. This is why Trump has been so odious to those of us who want democracy. Certainly Trump has capitalized on our government’s inability to earn Americans’ trust. In a democracy truth and trust are symbiotic, one requires and complements the other. Truth and trust are the “currency” of democracy. When a leader like Trump tells more lies than truth, and lies when telling the truth is easier, our democracy is “devalued”. We must demand leaders who are truthful that will rebuild our trust. And we must come to a national realization that truth is truth. Truth is not what everyone wants it to be so they can believe whatever they want, which oftentimes for many Americans is pure fantasy (example- conspiracy theories). I love what the late Senator Daniel Moynihan said about this- “You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own set of facts.”
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