Political ambitions are one thing, but I think the 2028 race should be on the back burner. We've got to win in 2024, or there may not be an election in 2028. I really wish the Dems would get on the same page, one that saves our Democracy.
I agree! I'm upset with Democrats, and the media, that keeps talking about how much voters want a different candidate for President.
Democrats MUST understand the consequences and be unified for the 2024 election; no 3rd party or protest votes! 2024 is NO time to throw away you vote! If Biden isn't reelected, I believe it will be the end of our democracy, and unimaginable turmoil across America.
Both Biden and Harris need to focus ALL of their attention on working to help the American people, defending democracy and winning in 2024!
They need all the well spoken surrogates - like Newsom and Buttigieg -who can hold their own on Fox, and expose their viewers to the truth about the numerous Biden policies that are making positive changes for the majority of Americans.
Will we EVER stop the “looky-looing” at the imperfections of our Democratic candidates, the train crash stunts of wanna be candidates, and the many ego-driven persons who could never be president? WE CANNOT LET THEM DESTROY our 2024 Democratic win!
It should never be anyone’s “turn” to run for an office. A candidacy has to be earned. In Minnesota the Dems lost the governorship to Timmy Pawlenty for this very reason. We cannot afford this in 2024. BTW I fully support Joe Biden for president. He is the best we’ve had since LBJ.
Ok, Joe Biden is “boring.” GOOD. I like a President who is experienced in dealing with policy and the political morass rather than a sideshow performer/grifter with mental health issues. Are we so hopelessly under the spell of media performance that we have lost all common sense? JOE BIDEN. That is all.
So very on-point! Remember Bob Dole?? Waiting forever to run for Pres so they finally decided it was “his turn.” Look how that turned out. I support Biden but Harris and her team are doing themselves no favor by assuming she will run in 2028. Not only do they have to win big in 24..... her ego should not assume they a vote for Biden equals a vote for her. No way.... I am a Californian who wants her back in the Senate.
Gavin Newsom’s gifts of communicating articulate and insightful analysis should be not only appreciated by all those concerned with our threatened democracy, he should be front and center with the Biden/Harris staff utilizing his skills on behalf of rescuing our country. Let the voters decide but do not muzzle a great communicator out of some corrupt idea of who deserves to be elected from time spent rising in the ranks. I appreciate Vice President Harris, and if she is wise, she will partner with Gavin Newsome to strengthen their message. The survival of our democracy is at stake. Thanks for making this crucial point Steve, even as you bond with your son on your road trip to New England, home of our county’s beginnings....(along with the great state of Ben Franklin, Pennsylvania).
Now is the moment in time for Unity. How many F&*$ing advisors does it take to win our country back? Dems need a lean mean fighting machine and now is the time. Remember all those Confederate generals that lost strategic battles because they knew too much and were delusional of their opponents strength? Humility in strategy is strength. Dems need to organize that strength now in Unity. The UNION won the war.
Dems need better comms strategy. Obama was only Dem who had effective strategy and communication.
I heard Biden’s campaign manager the other day. What a pile of tired, canned cliches and comments. I wanted to cry. Evens weaker than the woman who ran Al Gore’s communications team. If that is possible!! Gore should have had way bigger margins and I faulted the tepid, weak comms team
“Harris allies take particular umbrage at what they see as Newsom's attempt to position himself for the 2028 Democratic presidential primarily at her expense.”----Harris Campaign Advisor
There in lies the rub. Like Hillary, Harris expects a coronation and how’d that work out for the party in 2016? And exactly the reason Kamala will not be President. Additionally, Harris has also proven herself incapable of connecting with the American people, and given how many advisors and senior aides have left her administration within the first year, it exemplifies her inability to show she would make a competent President on day one, or ever for that matter. This is the stuff of petty nonsense and childlessness; the type, all of us are sick of.
Personally, I wanted Newsom to run. Biden said he would be a transitional president. Not only are we dealing with his age, but should the Hunter investigation show even the slightest possibility that Joe was getting money under the table, he can no longer claim the high-moral and ethical mantle. And Let’s face it, a twice impeached, convicted sexual offender, and four time indicted man!(93 counts including RICO) is running neck and neck against the current Biden. It should be a blowout, not a nail biter!
That said, If anything, we in the Democratic Party want to be able to make our own choice, not force fed our politicians down our throats. If that’s the case, I’ll register as independent. Been there, done that in 2016.
Furthermore, Kamala hasn’t accomplished much as VP; seems awkward in interviews, and hasn’t done much with the border; the one issue Biden asked Kamala to take the reins on, and run with it. In fact, all we’ve ever heard is crickets.
Instead, she thought she was being set up for failure, and dismissed the border portfolio outright. So If Kamala believes she is the rightful heir to the throne, then democracy in our party is already dead. So why vote for a tyrant or wannabe dictator? Slice it however you want, it’s not democratic process when the people in the party aren’t choosing their next presidential candidate, which is the whole point of democracy, isn’t it?
Newsom offers fresh blood and youth. As Steve points out, he runs the fifth largest economy in the world. Not only that, it’s a microcosm of all of America. Every sector, from agriculture to technology, is part of California’s economic landscape.
I’m looking forward to the debate between DeSatan and Newsom, and only wish it were sooner, since it could help shift the playing field and give us a leg up and some hope, should any Biden disqualifying fires start to break out by 2024. Not to mention, Newsom would make mince meat of the man!
Please don’t go there. Did I not say the same for Biden? He’s old and I would have preferred a younger, more vibrant candidate? And I’m not alone. 80% of democrats have stated as much in the most recent polling data.
My point is that no one should have a coronation, male or female. Earn it. Biden did in 2020. Kamala lost, and now she acting in a petty, vindictive way.
News flash: the party isn’t about any one individual, it’s about what’s best for America through a democratically held primary, for which anyone should have the opportunity to run and the voters get to decide. The “machines” in both parties are dead.
Anyone who feels entitled, need not apply: male or female...:)
is it Kamala that was the source or was it just some lowly staff underling that loves Kamala, playing to a journalist, who is looking for a scoop. Or did I miss the identification of the source? Or maybe it is just miss information put out by the campaign. We will probably never know. But there is a lot we should have learned, don't believe everything you read/hear, particularly unidentified sources, when it comes to political reporting....the invasion of Iraq comes to mind.
Not sure the exact level of aide matters, I'm not up on my campaign job titles....but this just doesn't sit right with me. I don't think Kamala would condone this kind of talk. She is in no danger of being replaced, unless she is a real liability to the party and I don't think she is.
Perhaps, but that’s why we lose elections because of pettiness and entitlement. And in Harris’s case, why are her advisors even leaking this information? It certainly won’t bode well for her future prospects.
Perhaps, they don’t even like working for her. If. She can’t command loyalty as a VP, wait till she’s president. It won’t end well...:)
This is not a sexist situation. I voted for Kamala for Senator. She showed.... during her brief tenure... she was effective. She does not project well on a national level. As with DeSantis in FL... Harris aligns better with her home state
I wish I had written this. I agree totally, unequivocally.
The not-bright strategists are going to push Dems out of power. Nobody is anointed a natural successor simply because the top of the ticket needed to have a woman and preferably one of color in the passenger seat.
Kamala does not project well: whiney, in experienced and often indignant. An effective legislator... not executive.
Your comments should be published in every medium. Thank you!, Mr Jaffee
Good question. The thinking was to give her a relevant job as VP, at a time the administration was dealing with the COVID vaccine rollout; the withdrawal from Afghanistan, a recession and many other issues.
If she succeeded, it would have made her a legitimate contender in 2028, but she thought it beneath her; apparently. I have no evidence to that effect. Just leaks from her aides who went public...:)
I see a Newsom/DeSantis anything as a Governor to Governor debate. I see Newsom along with Whitmer and a few other D Governors as potential 2028 contenders. I also see this as an attempt to show divisions where the campaign appears to be organized and humming along. There is neither smoke nor fire.
Beautifully said! They're governors of 2 important states. I think it's a great opportunity for direct discussion of policy and philosophy instead of cheap jabs that are only on one kind of news program.
My job as a political operative is limited (that means non existent), but is everyone so paranoid? These people need to get out of their own heads and meet some REAL Americans. Destiny cannot be purchased with money and ambition, there has to be something else.
I look at them, Shapiro out of PA, Bershear of Kentucky as part of the Ds future. Also Evers of Wisconsin. Cox is new in his MD role. They’re running States and doing it well. Paired with a foreign policy type they can move mountains.
I expect Newsom to put DeSantis in a corner on policy and performance. Real issues not cultural wars.
Any chance this is the scenario? Yes, Harris is thinking about 2028 and so is the Gov. of CA (and many, many others). At the same time, the Gov of CA is taking a baby step into national politics and has been assigned to stalk the Gov of FL? Is the Harris camp uneasy? Of course! Has anyone said Harris will have or should have a clear field? No! Did VP Gore? No! Did Dole? No! Did George Bush Sr? No! Did Johnson's VP? No! Nixon's VP/Unelected President - lost. Did Sec HCR former first lady? Almost, except Bernie said that was unacceptable and the DNC cost her a lot of important votes when it was revealed they opposed Bernie. Since when do VPs or any candidate for that matter get carte blanche? Honestly, the Gov of CA is not a threat to the Dem's campaigns in 2024 or 2028. He is more likely an asset. Oops, I forgot, Ford was challenged by Reagan, who lost but four years later Reagan came back and beat Carter.
I cannot listen to Bernie. He was relegated to my personal purgatory for his ego-bloated antics re: HRC. A sorry, loud, braying windbag puffed up by ego
He spoke to the concerns of a lot of people but the sad part is he would not have been a good president (in my mind) because he would have no support in either house, he does not really practice diplomacy, and I can't conceive of how he would have handled foreign affairs. However, he was right to insist she have a challenger, we should have a choice, and he made people discuss a lot of issues.
The point isn't the flailing zombie DeSantis, or the utility and energy and slaying power of Newsom, but, rather, the shocking lack of solidarity, of fellowship, in proximity of the looming goblinesque shadow that is the malfeasant GOP. We need to be sharp, relentless, on-point, inexhaustible missiles wrt messaging, campaigning, all of it.
Now, now, now is the time to pounce, to run with the bit, to save the puppies, to leap tall buildings, to highlight feats of blazing glory while taking no mercy on the gobshite Jim Jordans, Marjorie Taylor Greenes and the like. As an aside, IMHO, DeSantis has basically eradicated himself on the basis of his stunted personality and inability to even hold a reasonable conversation. Evil and awkward are not endearing.
Yes, we know there are lots of fuck-you’ers who support trump against the establishment that has destroyed their middle class. But everybody i know voting for trump ( not supporting but voting; there is a difference) lives in a mcmansion and sends their kids to private school. They are the only-one-pie people who have no intention of sharing the goods, and control, with anyone undeserving.
I completely agree with you. I am seeing the same with educated, affluent individuals revealing they will vote for trump. Many have outright said they despise him, but will vote for him if he is gop nominee. The in-your-face maga supporters get all the attention in media. The voters seem to be under the radar.
Agreed - the marginal tax rate is all these types care about...DESPITE the fact that Rump lowered the corporate rate permanently and only temporarily for individuals, i.e. wage earners...the W2 folks. Nary a thought about foreign policy, the climate or dozens of other important issues...we are not a serious society anymore IMHO.
Charlotte I live in a very wealthy bubble town south of San Francisco and can attest to the solidity of your observation. The serfs brandish torches and spears while the lords of the manor hoard riches...
Disagreements are normal and better than a so-called united front that stifles dissent. It's how one arrives at a consensus. I wonder if Republicans are allowed to disagree without suffering some kind of punishment.
No, no one is allowed to disagree with Der Fuhrer. Never. If Trump goes to “jail” for mounting an insurrection against the state, will he too use the time to write about his “struggle” with his close aide by his side taking notes? And of course a beautiful rich heiress funding everything. This is all so fucking bizarre.
Harris is a talented woman, but she will never be president. And if it is true that she is positioning for '28 during this reelection campaign, she has no business on the ticket this time around.
I really wish Biden had chosen her for Attorney General rather than VP.
Early on the emerging Trump GOP seemed on a strong roll with little tactical interference from Dems until Harris completely unlaced Barr. With simple but adroit questioning (good lawyering), she left Barr flopping like a fish, unable to proffer forth even an attempt of a spin. I thought then, attorney general. Instead we got Mr. Mush.
I hope Democratic campaigners and pollsters will not be blinded by their own arrogance and opacity as in 2016 and take things for granted. And even more worrying is the ramping up of covert online and offline information distortion and disruption campaign to destabilize the US political system coming from abroad. The stakes are enormous here and globally. Democrats should start a real push back on misinformation campaign with the help from the government itself.
Policy achievements are the Biden administration's strength. Communicating those achievements certainly is not. Maybe they think it is too early to go big on the great things accomplished, but having Newsom debate DeSantis could be the opening bell for the start of the actual campaign because it certainly hasn't started yet. And where is the media coverage of all the achievements? Certainly partially the campaign's fault there is too little out there. I see this debate as a springboard for the start of the real campaign with no need to wait to see who the Republicans put forth on their ticket.
Kamala has gotten almost zero coverage, although she has been out and about. Why? The campaign's fault? Of course. Go Gavin!
I think our media is severely lacking in covering anything good! They go for the scary, the shiniest white man they can find, the depraved, the criminal, the worst of us... I’m at a loss as to how POTUS can alter this. It could be our downfall since the corporate heads are greedy beyond reason! I’d like someone to prove me wrong — I really would 😟
Unleash the hounds! In this case, it’s governor Newsom. He’s a bad ass on the debate stage just as he’s been a very successful, tough governor, and an outspoken critic of the dumbkoff governors like DeSantis and Abbott. If this is a preview of the 2028 race, so be it. America loves a winner!
Regarding the video about the ending of the colossal American presidency failure known as the Trump administration, the years of Trump’s presence in the public square illustrate clearly the importance of truth and trust for sustaining democracy. Likewise, the Trump administration shows how the absence of truth and trust undermines and damages democracy. This is why Trump has been so odious to those of us who want democracy. Certainly Trump has capitalized on our government’s inability to earn Americans’ trust. In a democracy truth and trust are symbiotic, one requires and complements the other. Truth and trust are the “currency” of democracy. When a leader like Trump tells more lies than truth, and lies when telling the truth is easier, our democracy is “devalued”. We must demand leaders who are truthful that will rebuild our trust. And we must come to a national realization that truth is truth. Truth is not what everyone wants it to be so they can believe whatever they want, which oftentimes for many Americans is pure fantasy (example- conspiracy theories). I love what the late Senator Daniel Moynihan said about this- “You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own set of facts.”
Political ambitions are one thing, but I think the 2028 race should be on the back burner. We've got to win in 2024, or there may not be an election in 2028. I really wish the Dems would get on the same page, one that saves our Democracy.
I agree! I'm upset with Democrats, and the media, that keeps talking about how much voters want a different candidate for President.
Democrats MUST understand the consequences and be unified for the 2024 election; no 3rd party or protest votes! 2024 is NO time to throw away you vote! If Biden isn't reelected, I believe it will be the end of our democracy, and unimaginable turmoil across America.
Both Biden and Harris need to focus ALL of their attention on working to help the American people, defending democracy and winning in 2024!
They need all the well spoken surrogates - like Newsom and Buttigieg -who can hold their own on Fox, and expose their viewers to the truth about the numerous Biden policies that are making positive changes for the majority of Americans.
We can't be worrying about 2028 right now!!
Will we EVER stop the “looky-looing” at the imperfections of our Democratic candidates, the train crash stunts of wanna be candidates, and the many ego-driven persons who could never be president? WE CANNOT LET THEM DESTROY our 2024 Democratic win!
I will go with the Reed Galen comment. Ds fall in love with their candidates Rs fall in line.
We need to focus on winning 2024 in all locations and all ok evels. For those with 2023 elections we n the d yo win those now.
Agreed completely.
It should never be anyone’s “turn” to run for an office. A candidacy has to be earned. In Minnesota the Dems lost the governorship to Timmy Pawlenty for this very reason. We cannot afford this in 2024. BTW I fully support Joe Biden for president. He is the best we’ve had since LBJ.
Harris needs to be taught that.
Ok, Joe Biden is “boring.” GOOD. I like a President who is experienced in dealing with policy and the political morass rather than a sideshow performer/grifter with mental health issues. Are we so hopelessly under the spell of media performance that we have lost all common sense? JOE BIDEN. That is all.
So very on-point! Remember Bob Dole?? Waiting forever to run for Pres so they finally decided it was “his turn.” Look how that turned out. I support Biden but Harris and her team are doing themselves no favor by assuming she will run in 2028. Not only do they have to win big in 24..... her ego should not assume they a vote for Biden equals a vote for her. No way.... I am a Californian who wants her back in the Senate.
Gavin Newsom’s gifts of communicating articulate and insightful analysis should be not only appreciated by all those concerned with our threatened democracy, he should be front and center with the Biden/Harris staff utilizing his skills on behalf of rescuing our country. Let the voters decide but do not muzzle a great communicator out of some corrupt idea of who deserves to be elected from time spent rising in the ranks. I appreciate Vice President Harris, and if she is wise, she will partner with Gavin Newsome to strengthen their message. The survival of our democracy is at stake. Thanks for making this crucial point Steve, even as you bond with your son on your road trip to New England, home of our county’s beginnings....(along with the great state of Ben Franklin, Pennsylvania).
Anyone remember when Obama put the "Communicator in Chief" Bill Clinton on the campaign trail for him? It works. Just sayin.
@Carol: Fight on, Pennsylvania!!!
Now is the moment in time for Unity. How many F&*$ing advisors does it take to win our country back? Dems need a lean mean fighting machine and now is the time. Remember all those Confederate generals that lost strategic battles because they knew too much and were delusional of their opponents strength? Humility in strategy is strength. Dems need to organize that strength now in Unity. The UNION won the war.
Dems need better comms strategy. Obama was only Dem who had effective strategy and communication.
I heard Biden’s campaign manager the other day. What a pile of tired, canned cliches and comments. I wanted to cry. Evens weaker than the woman who ran Al Gore’s communications team. If that is possible!! Gore should have had way bigger margins and I faulted the tepid, weak comms team
Amen Meryl. Truth be told. What do we know, us older wiser dem voters?
“Harris allies take particular umbrage at what they see as Newsom's attempt to position himself for the 2028 Democratic presidential primarily at her expense.”----Harris Campaign Advisor
There in lies the rub. Like Hillary, Harris expects a coronation and how’d that work out for the party in 2016? And exactly the reason Kamala will not be President. Additionally, Harris has also proven herself incapable of connecting with the American people, and given how many advisors and senior aides have left her administration within the first year, it exemplifies her inability to show she would make a competent President on day one, or ever for that matter. This is the stuff of petty nonsense and childlessness; the type, all of us are sick of.
Personally, I wanted Newsom to run. Biden said he would be a transitional president. Not only are we dealing with his age, but should the Hunter investigation show even the slightest possibility that Joe was getting money under the table, he can no longer claim the high-moral and ethical mantle. And Let’s face it, a twice impeached, convicted sexual offender, and four time indicted man!(93 counts including RICO) is running neck and neck against the current Biden. It should be a blowout, not a nail biter!
That said, If anything, we in the Democratic Party want to be able to make our own choice, not force fed our politicians down our throats. If that’s the case, I’ll register as independent. Been there, done that in 2016.
Furthermore, Kamala hasn’t accomplished much as VP; seems awkward in interviews, and hasn’t done much with the border; the one issue Biden asked Kamala to take the reins on, and run with it. In fact, all we’ve ever heard is crickets.
Instead, she thought she was being set up for failure, and dismissed the border portfolio outright. So If Kamala believes she is the rightful heir to the throne, then democracy in our party is already dead. So why vote for a tyrant or wannabe dictator? Slice it however you want, it’s not democratic process when the people in the party aren’t choosing their next presidential candidate, which is the whole point of democracy, isn’t it?
Newsom offers fresh blood and youth. As Steve points out, he runs the fifth largest economy in the world. Not only that, it’s a microcosm of all of America. Every sector, from agriculture to technology, is part of California’s economic landscape.
I’m looking forward to the debate between DeSatan and Newsom, and only wish it were sooner, since it could help shift the playing field and give us a leg up and some hope, should any Biden disqualifying fires start to break out by 2024. Not to mention, Newsom would make mince meat of the man!
Just some thoughts...:)
If Kamala’s advisors are worried about the Newsome/desantis debate then she has bigger worries than running for President in 28.
Cheers to you, RedSox.
Good point and agreed...:)
Do male candidates expect a coronation? This seems to apply only to women. Harris has run for office before. She knows how it works.
Please don’t go there. Did I not say the same for Biden? He’s old and I would have preferred a younger, more vibrant candidate? And I’m not alone. 80% of democrats have stated as much in the most recent polling data.
My point is that no one should have a coronation, male or female. Earn it. Biden did in 2020. Kamala lost, and now she acting in a petty, vindictive way.
News flash: the party isn’t about any one individual, it’s about what’s best for America through a democratically held primary, for which anyone should have the opportunity to run and the voters get to decide. The “machines” in both parties are dead.
Anyone who feels entitled, need not apply: male or female...:)
is it Kamala that was the source or was it just some lowly staff underling that loves Kamala, playing to a journalist, who is looking for a scoop. Or did I miss the identification of the source? Or maybe it is just miss information put out by the campaign. We will probably never know. But there is a lot we should have learned, don't believe everything you read/hear, particularly unidentified sources, when it comes to political reporting....the invasion of Iraq comes to mind.
Aides, not low level; they work on her campaign.
Not sure the exact level of aide matters, I'm not up on my campaign job titles....but this just doesn't sit right with me. I don't think Kamala would condone this kind of talk. She is in no danger of being replaced, unless she is a real liability to the party and I don't think she is.
I imagine anyone who runs for office feels entitled in some way.
Perhaps, but that’s why we lose elections because of pettiness and entitlement. And in Harris’s case, why are her advisors even leaking this information? It certainly won’t bode well for her future prospects.
Perhaps, they don’t even like working for her. If. She can’t command loyalty as a VP, wait till she’s president. It won’t end well...:)
I don’t see her being nominated for president. I’m not worried about her.
This is not a sexist situation. I voted for Kamala for Senator. She showed.... during her brief tenure... she was effective. She does not project well on a national level. As with DeSantis in FL... Harris aligns better with her home state
I wish I had written this. I agree totally, unequivocally.
The not-bright strategists are going to push Dems out of power. Nobody is anointed a natural successor simply because the top of the ticket needed to have a woman and preferably one of color in the passenger seat.
Kamala does not project well: whiney, in experienced and often indignant. An effective legislator... not executive.
Your comments should be published in every medium. Thank you!, Mr Jaffee
Thank you and excellent points...:)
Assigning The Border to Kamala was like assigning Health Care to Hillary. Big issue. Big stakes. Whose idea? Why?
Good question. The thinking was to give her a relevant job as VP, at a time the administration was dealing with the COVID vaccine rollout; the withdrawal from Afghanistan, a recession and many other issues.
If she succeeded, it would have made her a legitimate contender in 2028, but she thought it beneath her; apparently. I have no evidence to that effect. Just leaks from her aides who went public...:)
People “leak” for a reason. They want the truth to escape from being suffocated
So, gossip.
I see a Newsom/DeSantis anything as a Governor to Governor debate. I see Newsom along with Whitmer and a few other D Governors as potential 2028 contenders. I also see this as an attempt to show divisions where the campaign appears to be organized and humming along. There is neither smoke nor fire.
Beautifully said! They're governors of 2 important states. I think it's a great opportunity for direct discussion of policy and philosophy instead of cheap jabs that are only on one kind of news program.
My job as a political operative is limited (that means non existent), but is everyone so paranoid? These people need to get out of their own heads and meet some REAL Americans. Destiny cannot be purchased with money and ambition, there has to be something else.
I look at them, Shapiro out of PA, Bershear of Kentucky as part of the Ds future. Also Evers of Wisconsin. Cox is new in his MD role. They’re running States and doing it well. Paired with a foreign policy type they can move mountains.
I expect Newsom to put DeSantis in a corner on policy and performance. Real issues not cultural wars.
And Gretchen Whitmer of MI.... she is on everyone’s short list
I would much rather the candidate in 2028 be Newsum than Harris. I imagine that is what they are afraid of. Interesting debate the woke vs the asleep.
Count me in.
Any chance this is the scenario? Yes, Harris is thinking about 2028 and so is the Gov. of CA (and many, many others). At the same time, the Gov of CA is taking a baby step into national politics and has been assigned to stalk the Gov of FL? Is the Harris camp uneasy? Of course! Has anyone said Harris will have or should have a clear field? No! Did VP Gore? No! Did Dole? No! Did George Bush Sr? No! Did Johnson's VP? No! Nixon's VP/Unelected President - lost. Did Sec HCR former first lady? Almost, except Bernie said that was unacceptable and the DNC cost her a lot of important votes when it was revealed they opposed Bernie. Since when do VPs or any candidate for that matter get carte blanche? Honestly, the Gov of CA is not a threat to the Dem's campaigns in 2024 or 2028. He is more likely an asset. Oops, I forgot, Ford was challenged by Reagan, who lost but four years later Reagan came back and beat Carter.
I cannot listen to Bernie. He was relegated to my personal purgatory for his ego-bloated antics re: HRC. A sorry, loud, braying windbag puffed up by ego
He spoke to the concerns of a lot of people but the sad part is he would not have been a good president (in my mind) because he would have no support in either house, he does not really practice diplomacy, and I can't conceive of how he would have handled foreign affairs. However, he was right to insist she have a challenger, we should have a choice, and he made people discuss a lot of issues.
The point isn't the flailing zombie DeSantis, or the utility and energy and slaying power of Newsom, but, rather, the shocking lack of solidarity, of fellowship, in proximity of the looming goblinesque shadow that is the malfeasant GOP. We need to be sharp, relentless, on-point, inexhaustible missiles wrt messaging, campaigning, all of it.
Now, now, now is the time to pounce, to run with the bit, to save the puppies, to leap tall buildings, to highlight feats of blazing glory while taking no mercy on the gobshite Jim Jordans, Marjorie Taylor Greenes and the like. As an aside, IMHO, DeSantis has basically eradicated himself on the basis of his stunted personality and inability to even hold a reasonable conversation. Evil and awkward are not endearing.
Excellent comment….
Yes, we know there are lots of fuck-you’ers who support trump against the establishment that has destroyed their middle class. But everybody i know voting for trump ( not supporting but voting; there is a difference) lives in a mcmansion and sends their kids to private school. They are the only-one-pie people who have no intention of sharing the goods, and control, with anyone undeserving.
I completely agree with you. I am seeing the same with educated, affluent individuals revealing they will vote for trump. Many have outright said they despise him, but will vote for him if he is gop nominee. The in-your-face maga supporters get all the attention in media. The voters seem to be under the radar.
Agreed - the marginal tax rate is all these types care about...DESPITE the fact that Rump lowered the corporate rate permanently and only temporarily for individuals, i.e. wage earners...the W2 folks. Nary a thought about foreign policy, the climate or dozens of other important issues...we are not a serious society anymore IMHO.
Charlotte I live in a very wealthy bubble town south of San Francisco and can attest to the solidity of your observation. The serfs brandish torches and spears while the lords of the manor hoard riches...
There are some disagreements among the Biden/Harris advisers. It doesn’t mean they are as a whole deluded.
Disagreements are normal and better than a so-called united front that stifles dissent. It's how one arrives at a consensus. I wonder if Republicans are allowed to disagree without suffering some kind of punishment.
Any normal president would like to see their VP well positioned to succeed them. I’m sure Biden knows this is not inevitable.
No, no one is allowed to disagree with Der Fuhrer. Never. If Trump goes to “jail” for mounting an insurrection against the state, will he too use the time to write about his “struggle” with his close aide by his side taking notes? And of course a beautiful rich heiress funding everything. This is all so fucking bizarre.
Evidence shows ineptitude and smug self-approval
That’s how she became a state AG, then a senator. Right.
Harris is a talented woman, but she will never be president. And if it is true that she is positioning for '28 during this reelection campaign, she has no business on the ticket this time around.
I really wish Biden had chosen her for Attorney General rather than VP.
Sooo true, Sandra. Harris would have been a stellar, spectacular AG
Early on the emerging Trump GOP seemed on a strong roll with little tactical interference from Dems until Harris completely unlaced Barr. With simple but adroit questioning (good lawyering), she left Barr flopping like a fish, unable to proffer forth even an attempt of a spin. I thought then, attorney general. Instead we got Mr. Mush.
I hope Democratic campaigners and pollsters will not be blinded by their own arrogance and opacity as in 2016 and take things for granted. And even more worrying is the ramping up of covert online and offline information distortion and disruption campaign to destabilize the US political system coming from abroad. The stakes are enormous here and globally. Democrats should start a real push back on misinformation campaign with the help from the government itself.
Policy achievements are the Biden administration's strength. Communicating those achievements certainly is not. Maybe they think it is too early to go big on the great things accomplished, but having Newsom debate DeSantis could be the opening bell for the start of the actual campaign because it certainly hasn't started yet. And where is the media coverage of all the achievements? Certainly partially the campaign's fault there is too little out there. I see this debate as a springboard for the start of the real campaign with no need to wait to see who the Republicans put forth on their ticket.
Kamala has gotten almost zero coverage, although she has been out and about. Why? The campaign's fault? Of course. Go Gavin!
I think our media is severely lacking in covering anything good! They go for the scary, the shiniest white man they can find, the depraved, the criminal, the worst of us... I’m at a loss as to how POTUS can alter this. It could be our downfall since the corporate heads are greedy beyond reason! I’d like someone to prove me wrong — I really would 😟
Unleash the hounds! In this case, it’s governor Newsom. He’s a bad ass on the debate stage just as he’s been a very successful, tough governor, and an outspoken critic of the dumbkoff governors like DeSantis and Abbott. If this is a preview of the 2028 race, so be it. America loves a winner!
Regarding the video about the ending of the colossal American presidency failure known as the Trump administration, the years of Trump’s presence in the public square illustrate clearly the importance of truth and trust for sustaining democracy. Likewise, the Trump administration shows how the absence of truth and trust undermines and damages democracy. This is why Trump has been so odious to those of us who want democracy. Certainly Trump has capitalized on our government’s inability to earn Americans’ trust. In a democracy truth and trust are symbiotic, one requires and complements the other. Truth and trust are the “currency” of democracy. When a leader like Trump tells more lies than truth, and lies when telling the truth is easier, our democracy is “devalued”. We must demand leaders who are truthful that will rebuild our trust. And we must come to a national realization that truth is truth. Truth is not what everyone wants it to be so they can believe whatever they want, which oftentimes for many Americans is pure fantasy (example- conspiracy theories). I love what the late Senator Daniel Moynihan said about this- “You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own set of facts.”
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