"JD Vance got ditched by Erika Kirk at yesterday's poorly attended TPUSA event."
Awww! Poor guy. And of course Trump sent him (no foreign policy and negotiations experience) to Islamabad to make sure that there would be no agreement. And then he hits the Tri-Fecta by making a complete fool of himself by one of the leading theologians in the World (who also happens to be the Head of Vance's church).
He is soooo far from being any even basic negotiator. And in this kind of high level, high risk, extremely international situation with a very specific subject matter. Frankly, Witkoff and Kushner are inappropriate as well. Look at the experts who participated in the earlier negotiations that resulted in an agreement that was working till it was "torn up" -- People with in depth knowledge and experience working in nuclear physics, energy, commerce, etc. People who knew the history, culture, and religion of the region. Led by professional negotiators at high levels of international planning, strategizing, & interfacing. It apparently took 20 MONTHS to work through everything to the entire group's satisfaction. No way will the current mess get "fixed" in 2-3 days, especially if the attitudes on one side come across as the subject of this thread tends to.
and by the way, on our side, we can't overlook the fact that at least two of them are CONCURRENTLY trying to pull off huge personal business deals in the surrounding areas. . . gee. . . wondering if that doesn't muddy the waters a tiny bit...
I don't watch the "national news" from ABC, NBC, and CBS, so I don't know what they are reporting. However, it seems that reporters are dropping the ball. Why don't they interview the people who worked on the agreement with Iran, that frump so stupidly tore up! They could inform/educate the American people that negotiations take time, skill, and intelligence (which no one in frump's administration have)! It makes me so made that frump wanted to destroy everything that Obama had done, because Obama was a black man! Well MAGA, frump worshipers, look at what America has become, because of your bigotry!
Pope Leo is a great guy, much like former President Barak Obama, minus the fact that, much like former President Obama, he is a huge White Sox fan. Full disclosure: I’m a North Sider.
How can he think anyone would have any respect with his past actions and comments! 4 name changes? Eyeliner? Stating he thought Trump was compared to Hitler?! And my absolute disgust is lying about the Haitians in Ohio eating cats! He’s a liar!
That Erika is a canny one! She got the early count of attendees (about enough to fill the local coffee shop ) and with a quiver in her voice and a trembling hand to her forehead, she murmured, “I must take to my bed. I’m feeling sickly.”
Good God, do we really have to have these people in the WH for another almost three years?
The world knows Trump is out of his mind and Vance is disgusting. Imagine the idiot saying Pope Leo should be careful when talking about theology .. It's embarrasing and offensive. I feel hopeful that no one likes JD . Maybe we can win in 2028 and be done with these terrible people who have brought so much shame to the United States. lost in america
Frump, then Vance, then Johnson. If frump does get kicked out by the 25th Amendment, look who will be next! Talk about slim pickens! BTW: someone on MSNOW stated that frump doesn't want anyone replacing him; not Vance, not Rubio-he just wants himself! Does that mean that we will have another insurrection? Or NO elections at all? This is scary stuff, folks!
Doona you are so right to ask that question. He might very well stage another coup.If he is as mobil in the future as he is at this time I have no doubt. The thing is he could die. He doesn't look well.
Can someone please explain to this fairly illiterate foreign policy person, why Iran having nuclear weapons is any more dangerous than other countries? Doesn't other countries have them too, e.g. China, North Korea, Russia?
It isn't any more dangerous. Trump's attack on Iran made nuclear war far more likely than would Iran's developing nuclear weapons. If any nation uses a nuclear bomb, it would likely mean the end...for all of us, including the nation that dropped the bomb. It is a balance of terror. Every nation wants nuclear weaponry since Ukraine, after giving up its nuclear weapons following the dissolution of the USSR in return for international guarantees of its border, was attacked by Russia, one of the guarantors.
The world would be better off with no nuclear weapons, but when nuclear powers like Russia and U.S. with no justification, attack non-nuclear nations, all nations get the message. We must have nuclear weapons if we want to keep our territory and sovereignty.
Iran does not and never had nuclear weapons. In order to make nuclear weapons uranium must be enriched to "weapons-grade." Iran was working toward that goal when the Obama administration negotiated a pact (executive agreement, not a treaty) in which Iran agreed to stop attempting to enrich uranium to that level, including inspections to ensure compliance, in return for the unfreezing of Iranian funds (about $100b. and not America's money) kept from Iran by sanctions. Iran was also allowed to begin to export oil again. A more secure Iranian economy would likely produce an Iran less likely to start a war.
The jerk in the WH pulled the U.S. out of the agreement and that is why we are at war with Iran. Well, that and Trump's stupidity, ignorance, and incompetence.
He claims he is Catholic but has been rebuked by Pope Leo for
his non-Catholic and non-Jesus following beliefs! I learned yesterday from a post, that American Catholics are MAGA-like and have strayed far from their he Roman Catholics. Sorry, no receipts. But it shocked me. Foolish of me I guess!
“I think it's very, very important for the Pope to be careful when he talks about matters of theology,” Vance said.
Roman Catholic dogma maintains that when the Pope speaks officially on matters of faith and doctrine, he is infallible.
Did Vance, a recent convert to Catholicism not know this? Vance should keep his mouth shut at all times and on every matter because he is a blathering idiot who knows nothing about anything.
I love the fact that Vance has written a book about his conversion to Catholicism, that is coming out soon! I guess he thinks that he is the expert on Catholicism! What an ass! I bet that Leo will read it and gain some knowledge as to what the American priests are teaching their people, these days! He just may ring in these so-called clergy experts!
The American Catholic Church became "conservative" during Pope John Paul II and Benedict's reign; both popes wanted to go back to pre-Vatican II, for examples: latin masses, nuns in habits. Pope Francis, coming from the "new world order"; a Jesuit , a teaching order, wanted to be more inclusive, which repealed many of the American bishops. Sermons became more political: you can't be a catholic, if you vote for someone who supports abortion. Some even wanted Biden expelled from the Church, for his "liberal beliefs". Now, with frump's second term becoming as it is, both Cardinals and Bishops are seeing the light! Notice more Cardinals on TV lately! Pope Leo XIII is doing what every pope should do; preach the Gospel of Jesus! As a world leader, which I guess Vance was not taught when learning about the Catholic Church (I would love to know who gave him his "instructions"), the Pope has every right to speak out against the evils of the world. Pope Leo is doing just that. He is speaking out against wars, violence, injustices, etc. The Church needed popes like Francis and now Leo, to bring us back into the 21st century, and to set us straight about the teachings of Jesus!
Thank you again Steve for all you do to save America. We can agree that no one likes Vance. My concern at the moment is this war and the added debt we are incurring. So many things we will need to correct but this one is huge! I am counting the days to midterms and in anticipating the halt to some of Trump and his evil regimes power and incompetent destruction. Even though we are much closer to November than before it seems so very far off! It is comforting to know that MAGA is falling apart! So, there's something! I am so grateful to have found you and to have this platform to stay informed. Some days are better than others! Stay strong, stay safe and keep fighting for America! We need you and others that can see the path to victory yet keep us aware of the hardship so that we do not lose heart. I pray this sh*t with the orange Grinch ends soon, I believe in miracles! Could definitely use one now!
There is only one word required to describe J.D. "sofa Pro Dom" Vance - VILE! The same adjective, which defines morally reprehensible entities, applies to all MAGA, Turning Point USA, Fox Propaganda News, every Trump cabinet member, every GOP congressional sycophant, every Trump speech, the "Despicable Six" of the SCOTUS, and oppressive rule by the alt-right American oligarchy. It is, as they say in the vernacular, "a SHIT SHOW!" And it has taken America and the citizenry to the bottom of the Mariana Trench in world opinion and world standing. Even our long-beloved neighbors to the South and North find our government contemptable. All nations are making plans and taking steps to dissociate themselves from America politically and economically. WE HAVE DISPARAGED AND WOUNDED OUR ALLIES - AND FOR WHAT? PREDMINATELY, TO ENRICH THE TRUMP CRIME FAMILY AND TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR FASCIST KLEPTOMANIACS TO REPLACE OUR DEMOCRACY! AMERICA MAY NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS DEBACLE. ARROGANCE AND MILITARISM ARE NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR INTEGRITY AND DIPLOMACY. WE HAVE MENTALLY, INTELLECTUALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DISEASED PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF OUR ONCE GREAT NATION. MAY GOD HELP AND FORGIVE US - NO OTHER WILL!
Vance has no consistent moral compass of his own, no ideas of his own, no mission of his own, and no substantial experience and he knows it. He is trying to develop a "presence" of his own, but by using techniques that work for others and do not look good on him. (If he were smarter, he'd recognize that they are not really working for the people he's using a role models.) He was in no way ready for 'prime time'. (Can anyone tell me anything notable he worked on or achieved while senator?) Starting to look like he was groomed by someone who only intended to "train" the student to do what he is told. Unfortunately he is missing the mark there too. While they seem similar, even di santis came across better.
Congrats to the 77% of Hungarians who showed up to vote the fraudster Victor Orban out of office The reason was simple Orban was taking billions of taxpayer money to enrich not only his son in law and a plumber to become the wealthiest Hungarians in the country but also was paying the Nazi Republicans in this country through CPAC It’s no secret to those who study authoritarians that they all become indulgent in government funds to enrich themselves and those around them
Now Jasmine Crockett in a House committee hearing(https://bit.ly/4cp63Z3) laid out for WE the People the Nazi Republican attempt to defraud the American taxpayer of billions of dollars for inappropriate expenses while Cheeto their Supreme Leader pardons convicted felons and their obligations to those they defrauded of billions of dollars so that Cheeto can buy some campaign contributions
So what happened in Hungary is happening with a wanna be dictator in Cheeto And the Nazi Republicans fully support the fraud What’s wrong with this picture? The answer is everything Vote these criminals out of office in November and impeach Cheeto and begin rebuilding our government with safeguards so this never happens again
I am so appreciative that you are so honest in your assessments of fools in the administration and of one who is a disgrace to the hillbilly community, a bad example of a Yale graduate and a very presumptious Catholic of a few years who dares to question the Pope! Vance is no student of Theology. If he were, he would not be where he is today, for sure. He just does not what or who he is and is a patchwork of the fallout from oligarch tutors who saw a use for him.
Hi Steve you called it Sarah palin with a beard and eye-liner we can’t forget that! JDs lord trump must’ve commanded him to not only wear the shoes he chose for them all but the face powder as well. JD is a loser a nobody no morals no dignity he will say and follow the wind. We knew there would be No Deal in Iran with jd witkoff the corrupt real estate man and Jared kushner the corrupted son in law all not chosen by any American Citizens to represent us here or abroad
Vance is a women-hating Confederate who gets his support from men and women who want to repeal the 19th Amendment.
I ❤️ “No Chance Vance” hahahahahaha
"JD Vance got ditched by Erika Kirk at yesterday's poorly attended TPUSA event."
Awww! Poor guy. And of course Trump sent him (no foreign policy and negotiations experience) to Islamabad to make sure that there would be no agreement. And then he hits the Tri-Fecta by making a complete fool of himself by one of the leading theologians in the World (who also happens to be the Head of Vance's church).
He is soooo far from being any even basic negotiator. And in this kind of high level, high risk, extremely international situation with a very specific subject matter. Frankly, Witkoff and Kushner are inappropriate as well. Look at the experts who participated in the earlier negotiations that resulted in an agreement that was working till it was "torn up" -- People with in depth knowledge and experience working in nuclear physics, energy, commerce, etc. People who knew the history, culture, and religion of the region. Led by professional negotiators at high levels of international planning, strategizing, & interfacing. It apparently took 20 MONTHS to work through everything to the entire group's satisfaction. No way will the current mess get "fixed" in 2-3 days, especially if the attitudes on one side come across as the subject of this thread tends to.
and by the way, on our side, we can't overlook the fact that at least two of them are CONCURRENTLY trying to pull off huge personal business deals in the surrounding areas. . . gee. . . wondering if that doesn't muddy the waters a tiny bit...
YES!!!
I don't watch the "national news" from ABC, NBC, and CBS, so I don't know what they are reporting. However, it seems that reporters are dropping the ball. Why don't they interview the people who worked on the agreement with Iran, that frump so stupidly tore up! They could inform/educate the American people that negotiations take time, skill, and intelligence (which no one in frump's administration have)! It makes me so made that frump wanted to destroy everything that Obama had done, because Obama was a black man! Well MAGA, frump worshipers, look at what America has become, because of your bigotry!
Pope Leo is a great guy, much like former President Barak Obama, minus the fact that, much like former President Obama, he is a huge White Sox fan. Full disclosure: I’m a North Sider.
LOL!
How can he think anyone would have any respect with his past actions and comments! 4 name changes? Eyeliner? Stating he thought Trump was compared to Hitler?! And my absolute disgust is lying about the Haitians in Ohio eating cats! He’s a liar!
And slimy
That's probably why frump picked him to be VP!
He was bought by Peter Theil. He knows his weaknesses and unlike Pence, Vance has no morals.
That Erika is a canny one! She got the early count of attendees (about enough to fill the local coffee shop ) and with a quiver in her voice and a trembling hand to her forehead, she murmured, “I must take to my bed. I’m feeling sickly.”
while dabbing at tears that don't exist?
Yes, a little light headed!
Good God, do we really have to have these people in the WH for another almost three years?
The world knows Trump is out of his mind and Vance is disgusting. Imagine the idiot saying Pope Leo should be careful when talking about theology .. It's embarrasing and offensive. I feel hopeful that no one likes JD . Maybe we can win in 2028 and be done with these terrible people who have brought so much shame to the United States. lost in america
Yes, it is so disgusting.
Frump, then Vance, then Johnson. If frump does get kicked out by the 25th Amendment, look who will be next! Talk about slim pickens! BTW: someone on MSNOW stated that frump doesn't want anyone replacing him; not Vance, not Rubio-he just wants himself! Does that mean that we will have another insurrection? Or NO elections at all? This is scary stuff, folks!
Doona you are so right to ask that question. He might very well stage another coup.If he is as mobil in the future as he is at this time I have no doubt. The thing is he could die. He doesn't look well.
Trump got paid to by Peter Thiel! “J D Vance must never become President” (
Frank Schaefer!
Can someone please explain to this fairly illiterate foreign policy person, why Iran having nuclear weapons is any more dangerous than other countries? Doesn't other countries have them too, e.g. China, North Korea, Russia?
It isn't any more dangerous. Trump's attack on Iran made nuclear war far more likely than would Iran's developing nuclear weapons. If any nation uses a nuclear bomb, it would likely mean the end...for all of us, including the nation that dropped the bomb. It is a balance of terror. Every nation wants nuclear weaponry since Ukraine, after giving up its nuclear weapons following the dissolution of the USSR in return for international guarantees of its border, was attacked by Russia, one of the guarantors.
The world would be better off with no nuclear weapons, but when nuclear powers like Russia and U.S. with no justification, attack non-nuclear nations, all nations get the message. We must have nuclear weapons if we want to keep our territory and sovereignty.
Yes exactly Anthony .. it is exhausting. And the way we left Ukraine to fend for its self is despicable. Shame on us ..
does Iran have them now or just the "ingredients" to make them?
Iran does not and never had nuclear weapons. In order to make nuclear weapons uranium must be enriched to "weapons-grade." Iran was working toward that goal when the Obama administration negotiated a pact (executive agreement, not a treaty) in which Iran agreed to stop attempting to enrich uranium to that level, including inspections to ensure compliance, in return for the unfreezing of Iranian funds (about $100b. and not America's money) kept from Iran by sanctions. Iran was also allowed to begin to export oil again. A more secure Iranian economy would likely produce an Iran less likely to start a war.
The jerk in the WH pulled the U.S. out of the agreement and that is why we are at war with Iran. Well, that and Trump's stupidity, ignorance, and incompetence.
He claims he is Catholic but has been rebuked by Pope Leo for
his non-Catholic and non-Jesus following beliefs! I learned yesterday from a post, that American Catholics are MAGA-like and have strayed far from their he Roman Catholics. Sorry, no receipts. But it shocked me. Foolish of me I guess!
“I think it's very, very important for the Pope to be careful when he talks about matters of theology,” Vance said.
Roman Catholic dogma maintains that when the Pope speaks officially on matters of faith and doctrine, he is infallible.
Did Vance, a recent convert to Catholicism not know this? Vance should keep his mouth shut at all times and on every matter because he is a blathering idiot who knows nothing about anything.
I love the fact that Vance has written a book about his conversion to Catholicism, that is coming out soon! I guess he thinks that he is the expert on Catholicism! What an ass! I bet that Leo will read it and gain some knowledge as to what the American priests are teaching their people, these days! He just may ring in these so-called clergy experts!
Agreed!
The American Catholic Church became "conservative" during Pope John Paul II and Benedict's reign; both popes wanted to go back to pre-Vatican II, for examples: latin masses, nuns in habits. Pope Francis, coming from the "new world order"; a Jesuit , a teaching order, wanted to be more inclusive, which repealed many of the American bishops. Sermons became more political: you can't be a catholic, if you vote for someone who supports abortion. Some even wanted Biden expelled from the Church, for his "liberal beliefs". Now, with frump's second term becoming as it is, both Cardinals and Bishops are seeing the light! Notice more Cardinals on TV lately! Pope Leo XIII is doing what every pope should do; preach the Gospel of Jesus! As a world leader, which I guess Vance was not taught when learning about the Catholic Church (I would love to know who gave him his "instructions"), the Pope has every right to speak out against the evils of the world. Pope Leo is doing just that. He is speaking out against wars, violence, injustices, etc. The Church needed popes like Francis and now Leo, to bring us back into the 21st century, and to set us straight about the teachings of Jesus!
Falling apart? It appears so and is astonishingly of their own making entirely.
Thank you again Steve for all you do to save America. We can agree that no one likes Vance. My concern at the moment is this war and the added debt we are incurring. So many things we will need to correct but this one is huge! I am counting the days to midterms and in anticipating the halt to some of Trump and his evil regimes power and incompetent destruction. Even though we are much closer to November than before it seems so very far off! It is comforting to know that MAGA is falling apart! So, there's something! I am so grateful to have found you and to have this platform to stay informed. Some days are better than others! Stay strong, stay safe and keep fighting for America! We need you and others that can see the path to victory yet keep us aware of the hardship so that we do not lose heart. I pray this sh*t with the orange Grinch ends soon, I believe in miracles! Could definitely use one now!
Agreed 100%
There is only one word required to describe J.D. "sofa Pro Dom" Vance - VILE! The same adjective, which defines morally reprehensible entities, applies to all MAGA, Turning Point USA, Fox Propaganda News, every Trump cabinet member, every GOP congressional sycophant, every Trump speech, the "Despicable Six" of the SCOTUS, and oppressive rule by the alt-right American oligarchy. It is, as they say in the vernacular, "a SHIT SHOW!" And it has taken America and the citizenry to the bottom of the Mariana Trench in world opinion and world standing. Even our long-beloved neighbors to the South and North find our government contemptable. All nations are making plans and taking steps to dissociate themselves from America politically and economically. WE HAVE DISPARAGED AND WOUNDED OUR ALLIES - AND FOR WHAT? PREDMINATELY, TO ENRICH THE TRUMP CRIME FAMILY AND TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR FASCIST KLEPTOMANIACS TO REPLACE OUR DEMOCRACY! AMERICA MAY NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS DEBACLE. ARROGANCE AND MILITARISM ARE NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR INTEGRITY AND DIPLOMACY. WE HAVE MENTALLY, INTELLECTUALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DISEASED PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF OUR ONCE GREAT NATION. MAY GOD HELP AND FORGIVE US - NO OTHER WILL!
Vance has no consistent moral compass of his own, no ideas of his own, no mission of his own, and no substantial experience and he knows it. He is trying to develop a "presence" of his own, but by using techniques that work for others and do not look good on him. (If he were smarter, he'd recognize that they are not really working for the people he's using a role models.) He was in no way ready for 'prime time'. (Can anyone tell me anything notable he worked on or achieved while senator?) Starting to look like he was groomed by someone who only intended to "train" the student to do what he is told. Unfortunately he is missing the mark there too. While they seem similar, even di santis came across better.
Let’s Talk Fraud
Congrats to the 77% of Hungarians who showed up to vote the fraudster Victor Orban out of office The reason was simple Orban was taking billions of taxpayer money to enrich not only his son in law and a plumber to become the wealthiest Hungarians in the country but also was paying the Nazi Republicans in this country through CPAC It’s no secret to those who study authoritarians that they all become indulgent in government funds to enrich themselves and those around them
Now Jasmine Crockett in a House committee hearing(https://bit.ly/4cp63Z3) laid out for WE the People the Nazi Republican attempt to defraud the American taxpayer of billions of dollars for inappropriate expenses while Cheeto their Supreme Leader pardons convicted felons and their obligations to those they defrauded of billions of dollars so that Cheeto can buy some campaign contributions
So what happened in Hungary is happening with a wanna be dictator in Cheeto And the Nazi Republicans fully support the fraud What’s wrong with this picture? The answer is everything Vote these criminals out of office in November and impeach Cheeto and begin rebuilding our government with safeguards so this never happens again
I hear that Orban's son-in-law moved to America! Well, isn't that nice! Will ICE be knocking on his door?
Hope so It would be a fitting closure
I am so appreciative that you are so honest in your assessments of fools in the administration and of one who is a disgrace to the hillbilly community, a bad example of a Yale graduate and a very presumptious Catholic of a few years who dares to question the Pope! Vance is no student of Theology. If he were, he would not be where he is today, for sure. He just does not what or who he is and is a patchwork of the fallout from oligarch tutors who saw a use for him.
Hi Steve you called it Sarah palin with a beard and eye-liner we can’t forget that! JDs lord trump must’ve commanded him to not only wear the shoes he chose for them all but the face powder as well. JD is a loser a nobody no morals no dignity he will say and follow the wind. We knew there would be No Deal in Iran with jd witkoff the corrupt real estate man and Jared kushner the corrupted son in law all not chosen by any American Citizens to represent us here or abroad